Sagamore PTA discussion groups - Revision history

Dave: Add link to old version that includes how to create a new group

2019-04-12T14:14:51Z

Add link to old version that includes how to create a new group

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	See also: [[Sagamore email]]		See also: [[Sagamore email]]

	'''Details on how to ''add members and create new groups'' was moved to the [[Sagamore Google Drive]] ([https://docs.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/document/d/17PGJdML0EZXEIPefG0HgWoOYVh18Ed1Xt4CWLtF_a6g/edit?usp=sharing])'''		'''Details on [http://www.9.0ne.org/mw/index.php?title=Sagamore_PTA_discussion_groups&oldid=2581 how to ''add members and create new groups''] was moved to the [[Sagamore Google Drive]] ([https://docs.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/document/d/17PGJdML0EZXEIPefG0HgWoOYVh18Ed1Xt4CWLtF_a6g/edit?usp=sharing])'''

Dave: Delete howto sections and note

2015-08-06T14:37:06Z

Delete howto sections and note

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	See also: [[Sagamore email]]		See also: [[Sagamore email]]

			'''Details on how to ''add members and create new groups'' was moved to the [[Sagamore Google Drive]] ([https://docs.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/document/d/17PGJdML0EZXEIPefG0HgWoOYVh18Ed1Xt4CWLtF_a6g/edit?usp=sharing])'''
	==Adding members==

	Sign into the [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/d/forumsearch/ Sagamore Google Groups] as [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] and goto:

	Group settings → Members → Direct add members

	Folks may also add themselves to a group by emailing:

	<code><var>GroupID</var>'''+subscribe'''@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code>

	For example, emailing <code>grounds+subscribe@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code> .

	==Creating a new group==

	There are actually [https://support.google.com/a/answer/33343 2 ways to create a group]—we're going to do it through the Groups interface instead of the Admin panel.

	All groups will start with <code>communications@sagamorehillspt.org</code> as an "owner" (for moderation notices) and <code>sagamorehillspta.org@sagamorehillspta.org</code> as a "manager" so they can add/remove group members (<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code> will not receive notices because is not an email address).

	#* Be sure you're signed in as <code>communications@sagamorehillspta.org</code> ([[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] and others will ''not'' work ([[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#admin.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>admin@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] will work, but then we'd just need to remove it as the default group owner))
	#* Go to [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org Sagamore Hills PTA's Google Groups]
	# Create group (red button at top)
	# Be sure of the following:
	#;Group name
	#: '''No commas''' because they don't get escaped and munge email addresses (Google Groups bug!)
	#: eg "Garden discussion at Sagamore Hills Elementary School"
	#;Group email address
	#: @'''groups'''.sagamorehillspta.org
	#;Group description
	#: eg "Discuss garden efforts at Sagamore Hills Elementary School"
	#;Select a group type
	#: Email list
	#;View topics, Post, & Join the group
	#: Public
	# Then, in the '''group's settings''':
	#;Don't force using Google Accounts
	#: Settings → Identity → Required forms of identity → Display names only
	#;Non-member messages are moderated
	#: Settings → Moderation → Moderate messages → Moderate messages from non-members of the group.
	#;Setting → Email options
	#:
	#::;Add a subject prefix
	#::: Subject prefix → [''groupname'']
	#::;Modify the email footer
	#::: Email footer
	#::: Select only:
	#:::* Display how to post to this group by email.
	#:::* Display how to unsubscribe from this group by email.
	#:::* Add custom footer text.
	#:::*: <code><nowiki>http://</nowiki>sagamorehillspta.org/</code>''page-for-group''
	#::;Change where replies are sent
	#::: Post replies → To the author of the message only
	#::: ''Necessitates reply'ing-to-all to include the group, but otherwise, can't reply to original sender (who might not be a subscriber)''
	# Add [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] as a manager so they can add/remove members (but they don't get notices because <code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code> is not an email address) and don't let them post
	## Group settings → Members → Direct add members
	##;Enter email addresses to add as members
	##: <code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
	## Members → All members
	##: ''Without using the checkbox'', click on the entry for <code>'''sagamorehillspta'''@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
	##:;Role
	##:: Manager
	##:;Email delivery
	##:: No email: web-only participation
	##:;Posting permission
	##:: Override: member is not allowed to post

Dave: /* Creating a new group */ Different account defaults

2015-05-18T15:13:56Z

Creating a new group: Different account defaults

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	There are actually [https://support.google.com/a/answer/33343 2 ways to create a group]—we're going to do it through the Groups interface instead of the Admin panel.		There are actually [https://support.google.com/a/answer/33343 2 ways to create a group]—we're going to do it through the Groups interface instead of the Admin panel.

	#* Be ~~sure~~ ~~you're~~ ~~using~~ ~~the~~ ~~[[Sagamore~~ ~~Hills~~ ~~PTA~~ ~~Google~~ ~~account#admin.40sagamorehillspta.org\|'''~~<code>~~admin~~@sagamorehillspta.org</code>~~'''~~ ~~Google~~ ~~Account]]~~ ~~([[Sagamore~~ ~~Hills~~ ~~PTA~~ ~~Google~~ ~~account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|~~<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] ~~''won't''~~ ~~work~~)		All groups will start with <code>communications@sagamorehillspt.org</code> as an "owner" (for moderation notices) and <code>sagamorehillspta.org@sagamorehillspta.org</code> as a "manager" so they can add/remove group members (<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code> will not receive notices because is not an email address).

			#* Be sure you're signed in as <code>communications@sagamorehillspta.org</code> ([[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] and others will ''not'' work ([[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#admin.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>admin@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] will work, but then we'd just need to remove it as the default group owner))
	#* Go to [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org Sagamore Hills PTA's Google Groups]		#* Go to [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org Sagamore Hills PTA's Google Groups]
	# Create group (red button at top)		# Create group (red button at top)
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	#;Group name		#;Group name
	#: '''No commas''' because they don't get escaped and munge email addresses (Google Groups bug!)		#: '''No commas''' because they don't get escaped and munge email addresses (Google Groups bug!)
			#: eg "Garden discussion at Sagamore Hills Elementary School"
	#;Group email address		#;Group email address
	#: @'''groups'''.sagamorehillspta.org		#: @'''groups'''.sagamorehillspta.org
			#;Group description
			#: eg "Discuss garden efforts at Sagamore Hills Elementary School"
	#;Select a group type		#;Select a group type
	#: Email list		#: Email list
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	#::;Modify the email footer		#::;Modify the email footer
	#::: Email footer		#::: Email footer
			#::: Select only:
	#::: ''Not sure about this yet…''
			#:::* Display how to post to this group by email.
			#:::* Display how to unsubscribe from this group by email.
			#:::* Add custom footer text.
			#:::*: <code><nowiki>http://</nowiki>sagamorehillspta.org/</code>''page-for-group''
	#::;Change where replies are sent		#::;Change where replies are sent
	#::: Post replies → To the author of the message only		#::: Post replies → To the author of the message only
	#::: ''Necessitates reply'ing-to-all to include the group, but otherwise, can't reply to original sender (who might not be a subscriber)''		#::: ''Necessitates reply'ing-to-all to include the group, but otherwise, can't reply to original sender (who might not be a subscriber)''
	# ~~Make~~ [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] an ~~owner~~ (so they can ~~manage~~ ~~the group)~~ but ~~not~~ ~~receive~~ or ~~post~~ ~~group~~ ~~messages (individuals should do that) and remove [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#admin.40sagamorehillspta.org\|~~<code>~~admin~~@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] ~~(admin~~ ~~always~~ ~~has~~ ~~access~~)		# Add [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] as a manager so they can add/remove members (but they don't get notices because <code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code> is not an email address) and don't let them post
	## Group settings → Members → Direct add members		## Group settings → Members → Direct add members
	##;Enter email addresses to add as members ~~(comma separated)~~		##;Enter email addresses to add as members
	##: <code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>		##: <code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
	## ~~Group settings →~~ Members → All members		## Members → All members
	### ''Without using the checkbox'', click on the entry for <code>'''sagamorehillspta'''@sagamorehillspta.org</code>		##: ''Without using the checkbox'', click on the entry for <code>'''sagamorehillspta'''@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
	###;Role		##:;Role
	###: ~~Owner~~		##:: Manager
	###;Email delivery		##:;Email delivery
	###: No email		##:: No email: web-only participation
	###;Posting permission		##:;Posting permission
	###: Override: member is not allowed to post		##:: Override: member is not allowed to post
	### ''Using the checkbox'', select <code>'''admin'''@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
	#### Actions → Remove from group

Dave: Update intro

2015-05-06T13:27:15Z

Update intro

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	This page concerns the discussion groups powered by Google Groups (provided by the [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account]]), and shouldn't be confused with the other [[Sagamore discussion lists]] privided by [[Project:About\|Parents]].		This page concerns the discussion groups powered by Google Groups (provided by the [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account]]), and shouldn't be confused with the other [[Sagamore discussion lists]] privided by [[Project:About\|Parents]].

			Most email should be sent to an appropriate Sagamore group instead of specific people (or at least always CC a group too). Everyone decides how "plugged-in" to a group they want to be: completely ignore, browse past conversations on the web, subscribe to receive weekly or daily digests by email, or subscribe to receive every message. Anyone can email a (non-announcement) group, but messages from non-subscribers are moderated (I can moderate more heavily if need be).
⚫	See the [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/d/forumsearch Sagamore Hills Elementary Schoo PTA Google Groups for a '''list of current groups'''].

		⚫	See the [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/d/forumsearch Sagamore Hills Elementary Schoo PTA Google Groups for a '''list of current groups''']. The first group was [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account setup#2014-05-06_22:00_Create_Google_Group_for_Garden\|created 2014-05-06 for the garden]],
⚫	~~Google Groups~~ also ~~powers~~ [[Sagamore email]].

		⚫	See also: [[Sagamore email]]
	The first group was [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account setup#2014-05-06_22:00_Create_Google_Group_for_Garden\|created 2014-05-06 for the garden]],

	==Adding members==		==Adding members==

Dave: /* Creating a new group */ small correction

2014-09-05T15:41:54Z

Creating a new group: small correction

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	###: Owner		###: Owner
	###;Email delivery		###;Email delivery
	###: No ~~delivery~~		###: No email
	###;Posting permission		###;Posting permission
	###: Override: member is not allowed to post		###: Override: member is not allowed to post

Dave: /* Creating a new group */ Note about commas in names

2014-08-22T18:14:22Z

Creating a new group: Note about commas in names

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	# Create group (red button at top)		# Create group (red button at top)
	# Be sure of the following:		# Be sure of the following:
			#;Group name
			#: '''No commas''' because they don't get escaped and munge email addresses (Google Groups bug!)
	#;Group email address		#;Group email address
	#: @'''groups'''.sagamorehillspta.org		#: @'''groups'''.sagamorehillspta.org

Dave: /* Adding members */ fix sentence

2014-08-22T15:33:36Z

Adding members: fix sentence

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	<code><var>GroupID</var>'''+subscribe'''@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code>		<code><var>GroupID</var>'''+subscribe'''@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code>

	For example, <code>grounds+subscribe@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code> .		For example, emailing <code>grounds+subscribe@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code> .

	==Creating a new group==		==Creating a new group==

Dave: /* Adding members */ Fix link

2014-08-22T15:32:47Z

Adding members: Fix link

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	==Adding members==		==Adding members==

	Sign into the [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/d/forumsearch/ Sagamore Google Groups as [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] and goto:		Sign into the [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/d/forumsearch/ Sagamore Google Groups] as [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] and goto:

	Group settings → Members → Direct add members		Group settings → Members → Direct add members

Dave: Add section about adding members

2014-08-22T15:31:06Z

Add section about adding members

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	The first group was [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account setup#2014-05-06_22:00_Create_Google_Group_for_Garden\|created 2014-05-06 for the garden]],		The first group was [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account setup#2014-05-06_22:00_Create_Google_Group_for_Garden\|created 2014-05-06 for the garden]],

			==Adding members==

			Sign into the [https://groups.google.com/a/sagamorehillspta.org/d/forumsearch/ Sagamore Google Groups as [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] and goto:

			Group settings → Members → Direct add members

			Folks may also add themselves to a group by emailing:

			<code><var>GroupID</var>'''+subscribe'''@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code>

			For example, <code>grounds+subscribe@groups.sagamorehillspta.org</code> .

	==Creating a new group==		==Creating a new group==

Dave: /* Creating a new group */ Setup users

2014-08-22T15:17:43Z

Creating a new group: Setup users

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	#::: Post replies → To the author of the message only		#::: Post replies → To the author of the message only
	#::: ''Necessitates reply'ing-to-all to include the group, but otherwise, can't reply to original sender (who might not be a subscriber)''		#::: ''Necessitates reply'ing-to-all to include the group, but otherwise, can't reply to original sender (who might not be a subscriber)''
			# Make [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#sagamorehillspta.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] an owner (so they can manage the group) but not receive or post group messages (individuals should do that) and remove [[Sagamore Hills PTA Google account#admin.40sagamorehillspta.org\|<code>admin@sagamorehillspta.org</code>]] (admin always has access)
			## Group settings → Members → Direct add members
			##;Enter email addresses to add as members (comma separated)
			##: <code>sagamorehillspta@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
			## Group settings → Members → All members
			### ''Without using the checkbox'', click on the entry for <code>'''sagamorehillspta'''@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
			###;Role
			###: Owner
			###;Email delivery
			###: No delivery
			###;Posting permission
			###: Override: member is not allowed to post
			### ''Using the checkbox'', select <code>'''admin'''@sagamorehillspta.org</code>
			#### Actions → Remove from group